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		<title>By: Michael Pahre</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2009/07/30/natural-born-citizens-of-idiot-america/comment-page-1/#comment-48723</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Pahre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to beat a dead horse )or an old commentator), but...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the issue of whether or not Lou Dobbs is a journalist, CNN management kind-of thinks he is -- and is doing a &quot;relatively straight newscast&quot;.  From the AP (&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/research/200908020012&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;via Media Matters&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;[CNN President Jonathan] Klein said Dobbs does a smart newscast that explores issues that get little in-depth attention elsewhere...  He suggested Dobbs&#039; CNN work is unfairly lumped in with his unrelated radio show...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    The two men sat down after last year&#039;s election to make changes, aware that the anti-immigrant Dobbs&#039; image ran counter to the brand CNN was trying to create...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Since then, &lt;b&gt;Dobbs has been doing a relatively straight newscast, Klein said.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[emphasis added]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to beat a dead horse )or an old commentator), but&#8230;</p>
<p>On the issue of whether or not Lou Dobbs is a journalist, CNN management kind-of thinks he is &#8212; and is doing a &quot;relatively straight newscast&quot;.  From the AP (<a href="http://mediamatters.org/research/200908020012" rel="nofollow">via Media Matters</a>):</p>
<p>&quot;[CNN President Jonathan] Klein said Dobbs does a smart newscast that explores issues that get little in-depth attention elsewhere&#8230;  He suggested Dobbs&#39; CNN work is unfairly lumped in with his unrelated radio show&#8230;</p>
<p>    The two men sat down after last year&#39;s election to make changes, aware that the anti-immigrant Dobbs&#39; image ran counter to the brand CNN was trying to create&#8230;</p>
<p>    Since then, <b>Dobbs has been doing a relatively straight newscast, Klein said.</b><br />[emphasis added]</p>
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		<title>By: lkcape</title>
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		<dc:creator>lkcape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of hurling insults....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Golly gee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of hurling insults&#8230;.</p>
<p>Golly gee.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &quot;less than excellent&quot; Unitarian*Universalist minister who almost certainly made *that* dubious libelous allegation about me might well qualify as a Natural-born citizen of Idiot America. Not that I think that all or even most Americans, or indeed &quot;Unitarians&quot; are idiots but *that* particular U*U, U*U cleric or not, certainly qualifies as an idiot if only for failing to disguise his glaringly obvious writing style while libeling me under the cowardly (or should I say Tim*id?) cover of internet anonymity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly enough the WVC for *this* comment is scentlec which *I* will interpret as -&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the stink of a Left-Wing (or Loony) &lt;a href=&quot;http://eclectic-cleric.blogspot.com/2009/05/my-cyber-stalker.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eclectic Cleric&lt;/a&gt; who quite foolishly, indeed quite idiotically, got into a pissing match with this alleged *skunk* on the internet. . . :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it. . .</p>
<p>The &quot;less than excellent&quot; Unitarian*Universalist minister who almost certainly made *that* dubious libelous allegation about me might well qualify as a Natural-born citizen of Idiot America. Not that I think that all or even most Americans, or indeed &quot;Unitarians&quot; are idiots but *that* particular U*U, U*U cleric or not, certainly qualifies as an idiot if only for failing to disguise his glaringly obvious writing style while libeling me under the cowardly (or should I say Tim*id?) cover of internet anonymity. </p>
<p>Interestingly enough the WVC for *this* comment is scentlec which *I* will interpret as -</p>
<p>the stink of a Left-Wing (or Loony) <a href="http://eclectic-cleric.blogspot.com/2009/05/my-cyber-stalker.html" rel="nofollow">Eclectic Cleric</a> who quite foolishly, indeed quite idiotically, got into a pissing match with this alleged *skunk* on the internet. . . :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only one?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will have you know that I am a moderate political liberal, making me somewhat left-wing, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://politywonk.livejournal.com/10922.html?thread=20906#t20906&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an alleged&lt;/a&gt; &quot;dangerously deranged psycho/sociopath whose antagonistic and aggressive threats against others should be sufficient enough to commit him involuntarily to a mental institution&quot;. Doesn&#039;t get much more nutty than that does it? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one?</p>
<p>I will have you know that I am a moderate political liberal, making me somewhat left-wing, and <a href="http://politywonk.livejournal.com/10922.html?thread=20906#t20906" rel="nofollow">an alleged</a> &quot;dangerously deranged psycho/sociopath whose antagonistic and aggressive threats against others should be sufficient enough to commit him involuntarily to a mental institution&quot;. Doesn&#39;t get much more nutty than that does it? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: lkcape</title>
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		<dc:creator>lkcape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we talking about left-wing nuts here?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hmmmm... one of our regulars may not like such conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we talking about left-wing nuts here?</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230; one of our regulars may not like such conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;who the hell takes Noam Chomsky seriously? (And yes, I realize we&#039;re probably going to hear from a few fans, but you know what I mean.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh my, Dan.  Do you know how many people listen to Amy Goodman and &lt;i&gt;Democracy Now&lt;/i&gt;?  Those crackpots hang on Chomsky&#039;s every word.  And there&#039;s quite a few of them...I&#039;ve heard that WZBC&#039;s fundraising doubled after they added &lt;i&gt;DN&lt;/i&gt; to the lineup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>who the hell takes Noam Chomsky seriously? (And yes, I realize we&#39;re probably going to hear from a few fans, but you know what I mean.)</i></p>
<p>Oh my, Dan.  Do you know how many people listen to Amy Goodman and <i>Democracy Now</i>?  Those crackpots hang on Chomsky&#39;s every word.  And there&#39;s quite a few of them&#8230;I&#39;ve heard that WZBC&#39;s fundraising doubled after they added <i>DN</i> to the lineup.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dan, I think you&#039;re right that as long as idiots are getting air time in media outlets that care about their &quot;respectability&quot;, they should be confronted and exposed as idiots for all to see.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V-NIdiXuEfs/Sm2IQEXJuXI/AAAAAAAAAxs/DCEDXzDE7Z4/s1600-h/Henry+Louis+Gates+Conscientious+Stupidity+Yo+Momma.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Couldn&#039;t agree more&lt;/a&gt;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Dan, I think you&#39;re right that as long as idiots are getting air time in media outlets that care about their &quot;respectability&quot;, they should be confronted and exposed as idiots for all to see.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V-NIdiXuEfs/Sm2IQEXJuXI/AAAAAAAAAxs/DCEDXzDE7Z4/s1600-h/Henry+Louis+Gates+Conscientious+Stupidity+Yo+Momma.jpg" rel="nofollow">Couldn&#39;t agree more</a>. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: LFNeilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFNeilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that this brouhaha has more to do with hurling insults than consideration of evidence, facts, or citation of law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Not so much in this forum, thank you, Dan. But it&#039;s out there.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that this brouhaha has more to do with hurling insults than consideration of evidence, facts, or citation of law.</p>
<p>(Not so much in this forum, thank you, Dan. But it&#39;s out there.)</p>
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		<title>By: lkcape</title>
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		<dc:creator>lkcape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...[Lou Dobbs] is trading on his prior credibility.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What credibility?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Same can be said for many...most...of the other talking body parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;[Lou Dobbs] is trading on his prior credibility.&quot;</p>
<p>What credibility?</p>
<p>Same can be said for many&#8230;most&#8230;of the other talking body parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Riglian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Riglian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main curiosity with this debate, aside from how fervent the nutjobs are, is what their goal is?&lt;br /&gt;In the Birthers dream scenario, where Obama is proven to be of Kenyan birth, what happens?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would assume he would be removed and that Biden would take over, but I don&#039;t see how that improves the Birthers situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess if you&#039;re crazy you don&#039;t have to think things through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main curiosity with this debate, aside from how fervent the nutjobs are, is what their goal is?<br />In the Birthers dream scenario, where Obama is proven to be of Kenyan birth, what happens?</p>
<p>I would assume he would be removed and that Biden would take over, but I don&#39;t see how that improves the Birthers situation.</p>
<p>I guess if you&#39;re crazy you don&#39;t have to think things through.</p>
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