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		<title>By: Biron</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2009/09/12/odd-station-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52657</link>
		<dc:creator>Biron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the local ESPN sites actually doing well?
Chicago: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espnchicago.com+670thescore.com+csnchicago.com/
Boston: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espnboston.com+weei.com+nesn.com/
Dallas: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espndallas.com+theticket.com+foxsportssouthwest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the local ESPN sites actually doing well?<br />
Chicago: <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espnchicago.com+670thescore.com+csnchicago.com/" rel="nofollow">http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espnchicago.com+670thescore.com+csnchicago.com/</a><br />
Boston: <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espnboston.com+weei.com+nesn.com/" rel="nofollow">http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espnboston.com+weei.com+nesn.com/</a><br />
Dallas: <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espndallas.com+theticket.com+foxsportssouthwest" rel="nofollow">http://siteanalytics.compete.com/espndallas.com+theticket.com+foxsportssouthwest</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Read</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big problem with this is that both WAAF 107.3/97.7 and WMKK 93.7 make money for Entercom Boston.  Not as much as WEEI, of course, but they make money.

I seriously doubt that if Entercom moves WEEI to an FM signal that they could jack up the ad rates high enough to offset the loss of revenue from destroying WAAF or WMKK.  I say that because WEEI&#039;s ad rates are already sky-high.

Perhaps Entercom would purchase another FM signal but I don&#039;t see how that makes fiscal sense.  Major market FM signals, even in this depressed economy, are still going to sell for mondo dollars...even WCRB 99.5 should fetch well over $50 million.  Hell, it could fetch over $75 million.

Presumably Entercom could recoup some of that with a sale of the 850AM signal, or the 680AM signal (which is more-or-less the same coverage) but I would think that if anyone was going to give them real money for 850AM it&#039;d be ESPN, and we&#039;d be hearing about an actual sale right now...not this goofy &quot;carry some of ESPN&#039;s programming&quot; deal.

The real problem here is that most of Boston&#039;s AM signals were ideal for covering the market 40 years ago when they were locked into their current configurations...but they&#039;re totally inadequate today.  WRKO and WEEI are prime examples...back in the day there was very little population west of their locations, now Metrowest is home to some of the most lucrative demographics.

I suppose WEEI could break up the simulcast of WAAF on 107.3 and 97.7...probably putting sports on 93.7, leaving WAAF on 107.3, and moving Mike to 97.7.  That&#039;s a tremendous waste of a lot of marketing effort and money, but it&#039;s certainly very cost-effective.  While 97.7 doesn&#039;t have anywhere near the coverage 93.7 does, the signal isn&#039;t too shabby overall (especially in the car).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big problem with this is that both WAAF 107.3/97.7 and WMKK 93.7 make money for Entercom Boston.  Not as much as WEEI, of course, but they make money.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that if Entercom moves WEEI to an FM signal that they could jack up the ad rates high enough to offset the loss of revenue from destroying WAAF or WMKK.  I say that because WEEI&#8217;s ad rates are already sky-high.</p>
<p>Perhaps Entercom would purchase another FM signal but I don&#8217;t see how that makes fiscal sense.  Major market FM signals, even in this depressed economy, are still going to sell for mondo dollars&#8230;even WCRB 99.5 should fetch well over $50 million.  Hell, it could fetch over $75 million.</p>
<p>Presumably Entercom could recoup some of that with a sale of the 850AM signal, or the 680AM signal (which is more-or-less the same coverage) but I would think that if anyone was going to give them real money for 850AM it&#8217;d be ESPN, and we&#8217;d be hearing about an actual sale right now&#8230;not this goofy &#8220;carry some of ESPN&#8217;s programming&#8221; deal.</p>
<p>The real problem here is that most of Boston&#8217;s AM signals were ideal for covering the market 40 years ago when they were locked into their current configurations&#8230;but they&#8217;re totally inadequate today.  WRKO and WEEI are prime examples&#8230;back in the day there was very little population west of their locations, now Metrowest is home to some of the most lucrative demographics.</p>
<p>I suppose WEEI could break up the simulcast of WAAF on 107.3 and 97.7&#8230;probably putting sports on 93.7, leaving WAAF on 107.3, and moving Mike to 97.7.  That&#8217;s a tremendous waste of a lot of marketing effort and money, but it&#8217;s certainly very cost-effective.  While 97.7 doesn&#8217;t have anywhere near the coverage 93.7 does, the signal isn&#8217;t too shabby overall (especially in the car).</p>
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		<title>By: raccoonradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>raccoonradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While 93.7 is licensed to Lawrence, their antenna is in Peabody--the engineer who helped put it on says it&#039;s maybe 10 miles from Boston. That isn&#039;t bad. (One rumor had WEEI going to 99.5, whose tower in Andover is 24.5 miles from Boston...don&#039;t think so). WMKK covers much of the Boston area. WCRB 99.5 has problems to the south. OK, so Entercom could have WEEI on both 93.7 and 97.7 or something like that. Does well.

ESPN 890 is now running a looped announcement saying that they are leaving the air today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While 93.7 is licensed to Lawrence, their antenna is in Peabody&#8211;the engineer who helped put it on says it&#8217;s maybe 10 miles from Boston. That isn&#8217;t bad. (One rumor had WEEI going to 99.5, whose tower in Andover is 24.5 miles from Boston&#8230;don&#8217;t think so). WMKK covers much of the Boston area. WCRB 99.5 has problems to the south. OK, so Entercom could have WEEI on both 93.7 and 97.7 or something like that. Does well.</p>
<p>ESPN 890 is now running a looped announcement saying that they are leaving the air today.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally, I think anything that will provide meaningful sports talk alternatives to D &amp; C is greatly welcome. I think there&#039;s little doubt that WEEI is feeling the heat of WBZ-FM; why else would ALL the Sox games suddenly come &quot;home&quot; to EEI, along with all the other &quot;improvements&quot; (gee, I wonder where the 15 minute commercial breaks went?????) I just hope that Mike &amp; Mike is available through the football season. That&#039;s when they shine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally, I think anything that will provide meaningful sports talk alternatives to D &amp; C is greatly welcome. I think there&#8217;s little doubt that WEEI is feeling the heat of WBZ-FM; why else would ALL the Sox games suddenly come &#8220;home&#8221; to EEI, along with all the other &#8220;improvements&#8221; (gee, I wonder where the 15 minute commercial breaks went?????) I just hope that Mike &amp; Mike is available through the football season. That&#8217;s when they shine.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel: How is that in conflict with anything I wrote? As I said: (1) worst signal of the three sports stations; (2) no local professional games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel: How is that in conflict with anything I wrote? As I said: (1) worst signal of the three sports stations; (2) no local professional games.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I think you have this all wrong.  This would be a different espn radio than what you heard on 890 and feature the likes of those just hired by espnboston and those local guys at espn like mike reiss, peter gammons, michael smith, and possibly tedy bruschi.  we&#039;re not talking more of winter and the other retreads at 890.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I think you have this all wrong.  This would be a different espn radio than what you heard on 890 and feature the likes of those just hired by espnboston and those local guys at espn like mike reiss, peter gammons, michael smith, and possibly tedy bruschi.  we&#8217;re not talking more of winter and the other retreads at 890.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, a correction -- I didn&#039;t mean that if entercom allows ESPN programming on 850 it gives away the store, I meant that if WEEI leaves 850 and that frequency becomes all ESPN  all-the-time then Entercom has given  away the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, a correction &#8212; I didn&#8217;t mean that if entercom allows ESPN programming on 850 it gives away the store, I meant that if WEEI leaves 850 and that frequency becomes all ESPN  all-the-time then Entercom has given  away the store.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that if ESPN radio has a deal with Entercom, it&#039;s going to be something that gives it WEEI right to carry ESPN games over the air and if it has to make a deal to get the rights to the ESPN play-by-play programming it wants, that deal will mean  using some ESPN chat shows on nites, weekends, and one of its HD subchannels. 

WEEI isn&#039;t going to walk away from the frequency where everyone has been finding it since 1994 -- since that would mean giving up dial familarity in a battle with a new station thath doesn&#039;t have any dial familiarity whatsoever.

As for the ESPN Web site, &#039;EEI has spent a lot on its own site; it&#039;s not going to help its web competition become a destination site for Boston sports news by giving ESPN the local sports news credibility that would come by allowing it to go on one of the three AM radio frequencies worth a damn in Boston. 

All of the Entercom FM stations are licensed to cities well outside of Boston -- WAAF is on two frequencies, one in Brockton, the other in Westborough.  Mike is licensed to Lawrence.  None of those signals provide good coverage of the entire market, so neither WEEI or WAAF can win on only one of Entercom&#039;s existing FM signals.

 So...what Entercom needs to do is keep WEEI on its traditional frequency 850 kc., keep WAAF on its traditional frequency, 107.3 and use the 93.9 and 97.7 frequencies so that each station the best market penetration possible, while offering ESPN  more than CBS can offer so that its attractive radio package goes on WEEI.  ESPN has absolutely no bargaining position in Boston unless ABC buys a major signal, so if Entercom allows ESPN programming on 850, it is giving away the store on both radio and the web.

Unless, of course, their strategy is to be the Misogny/Racist/Right Wing Nut Station and wants to protect that niche by having WBZ-FM and ESPN battle over &quot;serious sports talk.&quot;

The elephant in the room is Entercom&#039;s WRKO; would teh company dump the calls and format as part of a realignment?   Wouldn&#039;t they then have to pay off Howie while he skates to FM talk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that if ESPN radio has a deal with Entercom, it&#8217;s going to be something that gives it WEEI right to carry ESPN games over the air and if it has to make a deal to get the rights to the ESPN play-by-play programming it wants, that deal will mean  using some ESPN chat shows on nites, weekends, and one of its HD subchannels. </p>
<p>WEEI isn&#8217;t going to walk away from the frequency where everyone has been finding it since 1994 &#8212; since that would mean giving up dial familarity in a battle with a new station thath doesn&#8217;t have any dial familiarity whatsoever.</p>
<p>As for the ESPN Web site, &#8216;EEI has spent a lot on its own site; it&#8217;s not going to help its web competition become a destination site for Boston sports news by giving ESPN the local sports news credibility that would come by allowing it to go on one of the three AM radio frequencies worth a damn in Boston. </p>
<p>All of the Entercom FM stations are licensed to cities well outside of Boston &#8212; WAAF is on two frequencies, one in Brockton, the other in Westborough.  Mike is licensed to Lawrence.  None of those signals provide good coverage of the entire market, so neither WEEI or WAAF can win on only one of Entercom&#8217;s existing FM signals.</p>
<p> So&#8230;what Entercom needs to do is keep WEEI on its traditional frequency 850 kc., keep WAAF on its traditional frequency, 107.3 and use the 93.9 and 97.7 frequencies so that each station the best market penetration possible, while offering ESPN  more than CBS can offer so that its attractive radio package goes on WEEI.  ESPN has absolutely no bargaining position in Boston unless ABC buys a major signal, so if Entercom allows ESPN programming on 850, it is giving away the store on both radio and the web.</p>
<p>Unless, of course, their strategy is to be the Misogny/Racist/Right Wing Nut Station and wants to protect that niche by having WBZ-FM and ESPN battle over &#8220;serious sports talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>The elephant in the room is Entercom&#8217;s WRKO; would teh company dump the calls and format as part of a realignment?   Wouldn&#8217;t they then have to pay off Howie while he skates to FM talk?</p>
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		<title>By: George Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like ESPN will end up as the primary (only?) sports station on the AM dial. That can&#039;t be all bad. I know I&#039;m old and live in Boston so they do not care about my listening habits but WEEI (850) comes in great for me. On the other hand, reception for the new sports station on FM really stinks and I&#039;ve given up trying to listen to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like ESPN will end up as the primary (only?) sports station on the AM dial. That can&#8217;t be all bad. I know I&#8217;m old and live in Boston so they do not care about my listening habits but WEEI (850) comes in great for me. On the other hand, reception for the new sports station on FM really stinks and I&#8217;ve given up trying to listen to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd: True enough. I was referring to the position that ESPN will be in after going to the bother and expense of starting a new station at 850.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd: True enough. I was referring to the position that ESPN will be in after going to the bother and expense of starting a new station at 850.</p>
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