And not many people here really care where your wife works!

Anyway, since it’s clear you are just spitting out whatever bile you can and aren’t interested in addressing the issues, I’m going to move on now.

The war is in the NOW, the solutions must for the NOW.

Does it really matter for the prosecution of the war what was being said in September and October 2001?

The entire nation showed its overwhelming support then. Can you really blame a single individual?

And where were you in 2001, still in grade school?

Ironically enough, you seemed to have missed that lesson. Where were you when Bush was saying we had to invade Afghanistan? Polishing your brown leather boots?

Not everything is black and white or, should I say, black vs white

And you obviously neither lived through or experienced the war in Vietnam…

Those who don’t learn the lessons of history are doomed to relive it.

Since war in Afghanistan has been going on literally for centuries, it seems clear no one can truly “win.” After all, winning means what exactly? There’s no land worth having. There’s no natural resources worth owning. It’s not a key logistical spot for transcontinental trade.

But…we fight that war because 1) it keeps Al Queda on the run, and by disrupting them it improves — though doesn’t eliminate — the odds that group can cause problems here in the US, and 2) because Afghan farmers are the source of almost the entire world crop of opium, and in case you haven’t noticed, the US is the world’s largest consumer of heroin. So by maintaining a local presence, we have the opportunity to disrupt a drug trade that costs us far more lives than 9/11 did.

So, I would say maintaining a small force there simply to disrupt the villians’ activities is worth the price.

You, on the other hand, are too narrow to be capable of thinking of such things. And that’s why the GOP has no party and no followers.

Always was, always will be.

Actually, these problems go back to the English in the early 1900s, Wilson in 1918, and Churchill and Roosevelt during the Second World War. Empire and division of spoils. And the collective “free world”; i.e., the United Nations, in 1947 voting for the partition of Palestine.

It is naive, me boy, to think that by perpetually saying that the war was ’s fault that you will get any closer a solution to the problems presented.

The point is not where will we go from 8 years ago, but rather where will we go from here. You fight the war you have, not the war you want.

I notice that you are studiously avoiding stating your preferences.

But I expect from liberals who face hard choices and can’t bring themselves to stop drifting whichever way the wind blows.

But to the main point: This is the GOP’s war. It was GOP policy, dating back to Nixon and fostered by Bush I and II and in particular, Reagan, toward the Middle East that got us into this mess. And, as usual, it’s left to the Democrats to try to fix it.

Typical.

I guess B1, that you don’t agree with your messiah’s statement that Afganistan is the “good” war.

Again a reminder: The determination to GO to war was approved by a total vote of Congress of 518 to 1 with 12 not voting.

But who’s counting as long as you can blame someone else?

Typical.

Is flexibility and consideration of new data a sign of weakness?