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	<title>Comments on: New GlobeReader adds puzzle and is puzzling</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2009/11/10/globereader-adds-puzzle-and-is-puzzling/comment-page-1/#comment-51562</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds almost as convoluted as the health care bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds almost as convoluted as the health care bill.</p>
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		<title>By: rozzie02131</title>
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		<dc:creator>rozzie02131</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a good reason for the Globe&#039;s pricing, having to do with the way the Audit Bureau of Circulation has changed the way they count subscribers.  Check &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmnews.com/ABC-adapts-to-shrinking-market-growing-digital/article/128971/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this article &lt;/a&gt; for details.  Formerly a newspaper could only count PDF-type replica readers as electronic subscribers.  Now products like GlobeReader count.  But they need to charge something in order to add a reader to their pile of subscribers.  So with the old method (Sunday subscriber = free weekday access) they couldn&#039;t count weekday readers.  Now, with a small charge for daily GlobeReaders, we count as subscribers.  (I&#039;m not sure how happy Macy&#039;s is with that, since GlobeReaders don&#039;t see their ads, but that&#039;s the way the rules work for now.)

Plus they get an extra $1.50 a week out of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a good reason for the Globe&#8217;s pricing, having to do with the way the Audit Bureau of Circulation has changed the way they count subscribers.  Check <a href="http://www.dmnews.com/ABC-adapts-to-shrinking-market-growing-digital/article/128971/" rel="nofollow"> this article </a> for details.  Formerly a newspaper could only count PDF-type replica readers as electronic subscribers.  Now products like GlobeReader count.  But they need to charge something in order to add a reader to their pile of subscribers.  So with the old method (Sunday subscriber = free weekday access) they couldn&#8217;t count weekday readers.  Now, with a small charge for daily GlobeReaders, we count as subscribers.  (I&#8217;m not sure how happy Macy&#8217;s is with that, since GlobeReaders don&#8217;t see their ads, but that&#8217;s the way the rules work for now.)</p>
<p>Plus they get an extra $1.50 a week out of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Newshound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newshound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U. S. horse population in 1900 was about 20 million with about 3 million in the cities. If we were still using horses today, based on the presence of automobiles and trucks, the manure in downtown Boston is predicted to be more than five feet deep most of the time and the stench overwhelming.

However, every U. S. auto company has gone broke except for one. Packard, Studebaker, General Motors, etc.

The Wright brothers didn’t do the finance investing world good either. The airline industry has not returned a profit in the aggregate since Kitty Hawk.

Norfolk Southern, Burlington Northern and other railroads stuck to the ground. They’d be broke too, had they tried to put wings on their locomotives. Instead, they stuck to their own business which they knew and understood.

None of the old ice harvesting businesses have succeeded in refrigeration either.

So, at least I wonder about the long term success of The Globe exiting the traditional newspaper and inventing a successful and profitable model essentially from the ground up.

In 100 years we’ll have to check in on Google, too, and see how it has done over the long haul and if they are exiting the Internet and trying to invent something new.

There is evolution with the same industry. IBM is an example moving along within the evolution and technology of business machines but the function remains the same, just the same as railroads utilizing more efficient locomotives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U. S. horse population in 1900 was about 20 million with about 3 million in the cities. If we were still using horses today, based on the presence of automobiles and trucks, the manure in downtown Boston is predicted to be more than five feet deep most of the time and the stench overwhelming.</p>
<p>However, every U. S. auto company has gone broke except for one. Packard, Studebaker, General Motors, etc.</p>
<p>The Wright brothers didn’t do the finance investing world good either. The airline industry has not returned a profit in the aggregate since Kitty Hawk.</p>
<p>Norfolk Southern, Burlington Northern and other railroads stuck to the ground. They’d be broke too, had they tried to put wings on their locomotives. Instead, they stuck to their own business which they knew and understood.</p>
<p>None of the old ice harvesting businesses have succeeded in refrigeration either.</p>
<p>So, at least I wonder about the long term success of The Globe exiting the traditional newspaper and inventing a successful and profitable model essentially from the ground up.</p>
<p>In 100 years we’ll have to check in on Google, too, and see how it has done over the long haul and if they are exiting the Internet and trying to invent something new.</p>
<p>There is evolution with the same industry. IBM is an example moving along within the evolution and technology of business machines but the function remains the same, just the same as railroads utilizing more efficient locomotives</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rozzie: That&#039;s what I was told, too. But the woman I talked with seemed so unsure of herself that I decided not to use what she gave me — especially since it sounded like they were going to throw in the Sunday paper for free, which made no sense. I guess she was right all along. Thanks for confirming.

Essentially they&#039;ve flipped their model. At first you got GlobeReader for free if you wanted the Sunday paper. Now you get the Sunday paper for free if you want GlobeReader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rozzie: That&#8217;s what I was told, too. But the woman I talked with seemed so unsure of herself that I decided not to use what she gave me — especially since it sounded like they were going to throw in the Sunday paper for free, which made no sense. I guess she was right all along. Thanks for confirming.</p>
<p>Essentially they&#8217;ve flipped their model. At first you got GlobeReader for free if you wanted the Sunday paper. Now you get the Sunday paper for free if you want GlobeReader.</p>
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		<title>By: Newshound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newshound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newshound loves computers, internet, blogs but still cherishes the old fashioned newspaper printed with all the ads and all the news, even trivial news produced on old fashioned newsprint that is budgeted and priced so it reaches out to essentially everybody.

So, Larz, sort of like the horse farmers who love horses and own trucks, I like newspapers and own computers.

And, I too, like you, hate to think I am in the swirl of a drain.

Larz, I think you made comparison to buggy whips in making a point on a blog a couple of months ago so to avoid using your line even though common expression, I used the tremendous originality of going straight to the horse. The front part of the horse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newshound loves computers, internet, blogs but still cherishes the old fashioned newspaper printed with all the ads and all the news, even trivial news produced on old fashioned newsprint that is budgeted and priced so it reaches out to essentially everybody.</p>
<p>So, Larz, sort of like the horse farmers who love horses and own trucks, I like newspapers and own computers.</p>
<p>And, I too, like you, hate to think I am in the swirl of a drain.</p>
<p>Larz, I think you made comparison to buggy whips in making a point on a blog a couple of months ago so to avoid using your line even though common expression, I used the tremendous originality of going straight to the horse. The front part of the horse!</p>
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		<title>By: rozzie02131</title>
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		<dc:creator>rozzie02131</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the answer I got to &quot;how much will it cost.&quot;  For any weekday when you don&#039;t get the paper edition delivered, the GlobeReader is 25¢ per day.  So for Sunday-only customers, GlobeReader access is $1.50 a week extra.  For Thursday-Sunday home delivery customers, the GlobeReader is 75¢ a week.  I tried to find out how much Sunday would cost for weekday-delivery customers, but I felt sorry for the poor guy on the phone who was learning all these rates for the first time.  

They&#039;re also running a half-price, 12 week introductory offer, so chop those prices in half to start.

The full price for Sunday home delivery in the metro plus GlobeReader, Dan&#039;s (and my own) original plan, will be $5 a week, which coincidentally is the same price they charge for the GlobeReader for non subscribers.  In effect, you are getting the Sunday paper delivered at no extra charge.  Dan, there&#039;s your potential ad-rich Sunday paper business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the answer I got to &#8220;how much will it cost.&#8221;  For any weekday when you don&#8217;t get the paper edition delivered, the GlobeReader is 25¢ per day.  So for Sunday-only customers, GlobeReader access is $1.50 a week extra.  For Thursday-Sunday home delivery customers, the GlobeReader is 75¢ a week.  I tried to find out how much Sunday would cost for weekday-delivery customers, but I felt sorry for the poor guy on the phone who was learning all these rates for the first time.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re also running a half-price, 12 week introductory offer, so chop those prices in half to start.</p>
<p>The full price for Sunday home delivery in the metro plus GlobeReader, Dan&#8217;s (and my own) original plan, will be $5 a week, which coincidentally is the same price they charge for the GlobeReader for non subscribers.  In effect, you are getting the Sunday paper delivered at no extra charge.  Dan, there&#8217;s your potential ad-rich Sunday paper business model.</p>
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		<title>By: mike from norwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike from norwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, get the feeling you&#039;re a victim of your own success.  Wondering what the parallel universe would be if you hadn&#039;t posted about your original gambit.

BTW, boston.com is still free for now.  Globe Reader is OK, but requires a computer in any event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, get the feeling you&#8217;re a victim of your own success.  Wondering what the parallel universe would be if you hadn&#8217;t posted about your original gambit.</p>
<p>BTW, boston.com is still free for now.  Globe Reader is OK, but requires a computer in any event.</p>
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		<title>By: LFNeilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFNeilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya-but — can the paperboy toss GlobeReader and land it on your porch roof with a loud THUNK a half-hour before your alarm clock goes off? Your dog knows the difference.

I believe there is some value to publishers holding to old standards like good reporting, community leadership and belief in your product.

I hate to think that I am in the swirl of a drain.

Newshound: Horse farmers will always keep horses. They love them, and they also own trucks. Newshounds should have such dedication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya-but — can the paperboy toss GlobeReader and land it on your porch roof with a loud THUNK a half-hour before your alarm clock goes off? Your dog knows the difference.</p>
<p>I believe there is some value to publishers holding to old standards like good reporting, community leadership and belief in your product.</p>
<p>I hate to think that I am in the swirl of a drain.</p>
<p>Newshound: Horse farmers will always keep horses. They love them, and they also own trucks. Newshounds should have such dedication.</p>
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		<title>By: Newshound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newshound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - divesting yourself of money to buy something of desire should be so simple that it would be almost silent.

You shouldn&#039;t have to call. If anyone half as smart as you is confused it is too complicated. 

Have you ever looked at the advertising rates based on volume, frequency, and numerous other variables and then attempt to compare the cost effectiveness of that with other alternative advertising opportunities? Perhaps not, but just a glance at their &quot;Media Package&quot; may reveal the cause of a prospective migraine headache.

Preparing tax returns should be simple. But buying a news product should require  virtually no thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; divesting yourself of money to buy something of desire should be so simple that it would be almost silent.</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have to call. If anyone half as smart as you is confused it is too complicated. </p>
<p>Have you ever looked at the advertising rates based on volume, frequency, and numerous other variables and then attempt to compare the cost effectiveness of that with other alternative advertising opportunities? Perhaps not, but just a glance at their &#8220;Media Package&#8221; may reveal the cause of a prospective migraine headache.</p>
<p>Preparing tax returns should be simple. But buying a news product should require  virtually no thought.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Sunday subscriber and I just deleted the Globe Reader from my computer.  I actually prefer to read the news on the regular Boston.com site anyway so it&#039;s no great loss.  I also have the NYTimes Reader, but I rarely use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Sunday subscriber and I just deleted the Globe Reader from my computer.  I actually prefer to read the news on the regular Boston.com site anyway so it&#8217;s no great loss.  I also have the NYTimes Reader, but I rarely use it.</p>
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