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	<title>Comments on: Why Climategate doesn&#8217;t matter (VIII)</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/02/08/why-climategate-doesnt-matter-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-54561</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh... Refuting these climate skeptics is getting more and more tiresome.  But now, there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptical-science-iphone-app.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an App for that&lt;/a&gt;!

And if you don&#039;t have an iPhone, the quick guide to refuting the climate skeptics&#039; arguments is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Still waiting for an answer from Mariss...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh&#8230; Refuting these climate skeptics is getting more and more tiresome.  But now, there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptical-science-iphone-app.html" rel="nofollow">an App for that</a>!</p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t have an iPhone, the quick guide to refuting the climate skeptics&#8217; arguments is <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Still waiting for an answer from Mariss&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/02/08/why-climategate-doesnt-matter-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-54512</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climategate doesn&#039;t matter because you can&#039;t stop scientists from hustling for grant money, and scream that the sky is falling will continue to be their tactic.

Nor can you stop journalists from playing Chicken Little.  It is, after all, the responsibility of journalists to save the world.

This is all about inflated egos and the demented desire to play Jesus Christ.

You might try getting some real religion... like, say, Christianity.  

Then you could play our your save the world fantasies in a more productive fashion.

In any event, you&#039;re dead in the water.  Climategate does matter.  We know you&#039;re just making it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climategate doesn&#8217;t matter because you can&#8217;t stop scientists from hustling for grant money, and scream that the sky is falling will continue to be their tactic.</p>
<p>Nor can you stop journalists from playing Chicken Little.  It is, after all, the responsibility of journalists to save the world.</p>
<p>This is all about inflated egos and the demented desire to play Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>You might try getting some real religion&#8230; like, say, Christianity.  </p>
<p>Then you could play our your save the world fantasies in a more productive fashion.</p>
<p>In any event, you&#8217;re dead in the water.  Climategate does matter.  We know you&#8217;re just making it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/02/08/why-climategate-doesnt-matter-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-54505</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lkcape - I was just asking for the data that lead to mariss&#039;s comment.  I have asked posters for data supporting their views here four times in these threads, and I have yet to get a response.

Yes, it was warmer on Earth at times in geologic history.  So what?  At those times, there was no human civilization, so who cares?

BTW, where was my &quot;sweeping generalization&quot;?  I thought my observation was quite specific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lkcape &#8211; I was just asking for the data that lead to mariss&#8217;s comment.  I have asked posters for data supporting their views here four times in these threads, and I have yet to get a response.</p>
<p>Yes, it was warmer on Earth at times in geologic history.  So what?  At those times, there was no human civilization, so who cares?</p>
<p>BTW, where was my &#8220;sweeping generalization&#8221;?  I thought my observation was quite specific.</p>
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		<title>By: L.K. Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/02/08/why-climategate-doesnt-matter-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-54494</link>
		<dc:creator>L.K. Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turn the air conditioning off in a computer center and watch the temperature rise.

The likely cause of the NYC temperature rise was not the result of a decrease in greenhouse gases, but rather from the massive shut-off of heat-generating sources...like thing with motors and power supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turn the air conditioning off in a computer center and watch the temperature rise.</p>
<p>The likely cause of the NYC temperature rise was not the result of a decrease in greenhouse gases, but rather from the massive shut-off of heat-generating sources&#8230;like thing with motors and power supplies.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Read</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;There isn’t a scintilla of proof our activities have any effect on this natural change.&lt;/I&gt;

I seem to remember that during the Blackout of 2003, New York city&#039;s ambient temperature dropped several degrees because of the sudden and drastic reduction in greenhouse gases coming from vehicles (no cars) and power plants (shut down).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There isn’t a scintilla of proof our activities have any effect on this natural change.</i></p>
<p>I seem to remember that during the Blackout of 2003, New York city&#8217;s ambient temperature dropped several degrees because of the sudden and drastic reduction in greenhouse gases coming from vehicles (no cars) and power plants (shut down).</p>
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		<title>By: lkcape</title>
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		<dc:creator>lkcape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In geological terms, the years for which there are records of temperatures represent a mere nanosecond in history.

So, Mr. Stein, that point may not be as relevant as you might wish. A sweeping generalization from such a limited data set does not make for a convincing argument.

One has to wonder whether or not the erasure of the tree ring data by the scientists in East Anglia was intentional. to obscure evidence that was not supportive of the orthodox view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In geological terms, the years for which there are records of temperatures represent a mere nanosecond in history.</p>
<p>So, Mr. Stein, that point may not be as relevant as you might wish. A sweeping generalization from such a limited data set does not make for a convincing argument.</p>
<p>One has to wonder whether or not the erasure of the tree ring data by the scientists in East Anglia was intentional. to obscure evidence that was not supportive of the orthodox view.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariss - 2009 was the 2nd hottest year on record.  All 11 of the last 11 years were in the hottest 15 years on record.

Why do you say &quot;now it&#039;s cooling&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariss &#8211; 2009 was the 2nd hottest year on record.  All 11 of the last 11 years were in the hottest 15 years on record.</p>
<p>Why do you say &#8220;now it&#8217;s cooling&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: lkcape</title>
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		<dc:creator>lkcape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Dan, I hadn&#039;t gotten around to reading the Guardian yet this week.  How insensitive of me!

Mariss, that is exactly the point that Dan keeps avoiding...

Is it because, perhaps, he may have to give up one of his cherished positions? Or maybe he&#039;ll have to delve into the anomalies of climate science? Someday he may let us know which it might be.

And at last, Dan, we have agreement. I, too, found &lt;i&gt;Walden&lt;/i&gt; somewhat less than advertised when I read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Dan, I hadn&#8217;t gotten around to reading the Guardian yet this week.  How insensitive of me!</p>
<p>Mariss, that is exactly the point that Dan keeps avoiding&#8230;</p>
<p>Is it because, perhaps, he may have to give up one of his cherished positions? Or maybe he&#8217;ll have to delve into the anomalies of climate science? Someday he may let us know which it might be.</p>
<p>And at last, Dan, we have agreement. I, too, found <i>Walden</i> somewhat less than advertised when I read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Try thinking this through. The climate is always changing; it was warming, now its cooling. There isn&#039;t a scintilla of proof our activities have any effect on this natural change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Try thinking this through. The climate is always changing; it was warming, now its cooling. There isn&#8217;t a scintilla of proof our activities have any effect on this natural change.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/02/08/why-climategate-doesnt-matter-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-54482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aunt Nancy: I read &quot;Walden&quot; twice — once in high school, and then again a few years ago to try to figure out why I didn&#039;t like it the first time. I didn&#039;t like it the second time, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aunt Nancy: I read &#8220;Walden&#8221; twice — once in high school, and then again a few years ago to try to figure out why I didn&#8217;t like it the first time. I didn&#8217;t like it the second time, either.</p>
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