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		<title>By: Bob Fontaine</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55542</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan. what got me started on this post was your mention of the position of our elected reps, saying right on this page above &quot;It’s an absolutely miserable situation.&quot;

Yet in the Oct 20 2009 posts I quote above,you said &quot;Society has decided” through our elected representatives, who have approved some forms of gambling but not others&quot;.

So THEN it was about what our elected representatives had decided. But NOW that they have apparently changed their positions to ones that are different than your&#039;s &quot;it&#039;s a miserable situation&quot;?

You dont see a conflict there?

By the way, love your site(s), your posts, enjoy your causes, appreciate you sharing your more personal experiences with us as it gives a a better perpective of what Dan Kennedy is about. And I also root for you when I find you on TV.. for some strange reason.

So please consider me a respectable disagreer. Imagine how boring it would be if we all thought and felt exactly the same way? The&#039;d have to lock Giselle in a vault somewhere :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan. what got me started on this post was your mention of the position of our elected reps, saying right on this page above &#8220;It’s an absolutely miserable situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet in the Oct 20 2009 posts I quote above,you said &#8220;Society has decided” through our elected representatives, who have approved some forms of gambling but not others&#8221;.</p>
<p>So THEN it was about what our elected representatives had decided. But NOW that they have apparently changed their positions to ones that are different than your&#8217;s &#8220;it&#8217;s a miserable situation&#8221;?</p>
<p>You dont see a conflict there?</p>
<p>By the way, love your site(s), your posts, enjoy your causes, appreciate you sharing your more personal experiences with us as it gives a a better perpective of what Dan Kennedy is about. And I also root for you when I find you on TV.. for some strange reason.</p>
<p>So please consider me a respectable disagreer. Imagine how boring it would be if we all thought and felt exactly the same way? The&#8217;d have to lock Giselle in a vault somewhere :).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;For you to somehow associate what I do with a chain-letter or ponzi scheme type behavior is misleading, offensive and outright wrong.
&lt;/em&gt;

I agree, @Bob, and I did no such thing. Rather, I compared you to the folks who sold food, clothing and equipment to the hapless gold miners. That&#039;s rather different, wouldn&#039;t you say? If that is wrong, then I retract it. But I did not accuse you of doing anything unethical or immoral, any more than I think it was unethical for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/strauss.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Levi Strauss&lt;/a&gt; to sell blue jeans to the miners. Wow, talk about touchy.

As for consistency and hypocrisy, @Bob, the state lottery is legal and, in Massachusetts, casino gambling is illegal. &lt;a href=&quot;http://uss-mass.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There are reasons for that.&lt;/a&gt; I can enjoy an occasional glass of beer or wine without advocating that crack cocaine be legalized. Careful analysis requires not that we just look at the activity but also the degree and the effects on other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>For you to somehow associate what I do with a chain-letter or ponzi scheme type behavior is misleading, offensive and outright wrong.<br />
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<p>I agree, @Bob, and I did no such thing. Rather, I compared you to the folks who sold food, clothing and equipment to the hapless gold miners. That&#8217;s rather different, wouldn&#8217;t you say? If that is wrong, then I retract it. But I did not accuse you of doing anything unethical or immoral, any more than I think it was unethical for <a href="http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/strauss.htm" rel="nofollow">Levi Strauss</a> to sell blue jeans to the miners. Wow, talk about touchy.</p>
<p>As for consistency and hypocrisy, @Bob, the state lottery is legal and, in Massachusetts, casino gambling is illegal. <a href="http://uss-mass.org/" rel="nofollow">There are reasons for that.</a> I can enjoy an occasional glass of beer or wine without advocating that crack cocaine be legalized. Careful analysis requires not that we just look at the activity but also the degree and the effects on other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fontaine</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55539</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, that&#039;s not fair, and I expect better of you than cheap shots. Just because we differ on this issue is no reason to mock my position. I respect your right to either side of the position you take.. as a teacher I would expect the same tolerance from you.

#1. I help brokers and owners sell real estate, which allows buyers to own real estate, like in having a home to live in. For you to somehow associate what I do with a chain-letter or ponzi scheme type behavior is misleading, offensive and outright wrong.

#2. Not that I care, but if you consider someone like myself as a tool of the gaming industry what do you consider the corner store owner who sells rolls upon rolls of tickets to their &quot;prey&quot; along with cancer causing smokes, and accident causing liquor? Murderers?

Responding to another member ---- Dan Kennedy, talking abo0ut his weekly Mebabucks plays, says: 
October 20, 2009 at 5:32 pmLarz: &quot;The problem is that once you have a number, you have to play it. To do otherwise is to mock the gods. Just $2 a week.&quot;.

So you&#039;re out there enjoying and supporting the very behavior you would critcize me for simply arguing you should have the right to enjoy??

OK Dan.

&quot;a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, that&#8217;s not fair, and I expect better of you than cheap shots. Just because we differ on this issue is no reason to mock my position. I respect your right to either side of the position you take.. as a teacher I would expect the same tolerance from you.</p>
<p>#1. I help brokers and owners sell real estate, which allows buyers to own real estate, like in having a home to live in. For you to somehow associate what I do with a chain-letter or ponzi scheme type behavior is misleading, offensive and outright wrong.</p>
<p>#2. Not that I care, but if you consider someone like myself as a tool of the gaming industry what do you consider the corner store owner who sells rolls upon rolls of tickets to their &#8220;prey&#8221; along with cancer causing smokes, and accident causing liquor? Murderers?</p>
<p>Responding to another member &#8212;- Dan Kennedy, talking abo0ut his weekly Mebabucks plays, says:<br />
October 20, 2009 at 5:32 pmLarz: &#8220;The problem is that once you have a number, you have to play it. To do otherwise is to mock the gods. Just $2 a week.&#8221;.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re out there enjoying and supporting the very behavior you would critcize me for simply arguing you should have the right to enjoy??</p>
<p>OK Dan.</p>
<p>&#8220;a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55536</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I dont sell real estate – I help others sell real estate better.&lt;/em&gt;

I am reminded of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAgoldrushC.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the only people who made money&lt;/a&gt; in the California gold rush.

By the way, @Bob, if you don&#039;t want to be thought of as a tool of the gambling interests, you might want drop the word &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/02/15/gambling_by_any_name_is_a_tax_on_suckers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;gaming,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; a public-relations term used exclusively by the industry and its sycophants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I dont sell real estate – I help others sell real estate better.</em></p>
<p>I am reminded of <a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAgoldrushC.htm" rel="nofollow">the only people who made money</a> in the California gold rush.</p>
<p>By the way, @Bob, if you don&#8217;t want to be thought of as a tool of the gambling interests, you might want drop the word <a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/02/15/gambling_by_any_name_is_a_tax_on_suckers/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;gaming,&#8221;</a> a public-relations term used exclusively by the industry and its sycophants.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fontaine</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55534</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only 1 Bob Fontaine on the board that i&#039;m aware of.. Both statements are true Mike.. you need to start thinking out of the box. I have been a broker for 20 years - but I dont sell real estate - I help others sell real estate better. Some of the best in the business. Does that help you understand a little bit better?

I also think gaming should be legal in Massachusetts, but I also really dont care if it is. So I am not a pro-casino gambling interest that Dan seems to think I am.

I live in Mass, but love Nevada. I love Stoli, but drink Bud Light. I like Giselle, but married the woman I love.

I dont fit into your mold, because i&#039;m more interested in fitting into my own. It&#039;s pretty simple. A guy as smart as you made sure to proclaim here for all to envy be ought to be able to grasp most of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only 1 Bob Fontaine on the board that i&#8217;m aware of.. Both statements are true Mike.. you need to start thinking out of the box. I have been a broker for 20 years &#8211; but I dont sell real estate &#8211; I help others sell real estate better. Some of the best in the business. Does that help you understand a little bit better?</p>
<p>I also think gaming should be legal in Massachusetts, but I also really dont care if it is. So I am not a pro-casino gambling interest that Dan seems to think I am.</p>
<p>I live in Mass, but love Nevada. I love Stoli, but drink Bud Light. I like Giselle, but married the woman I love.</p>
<p>I dont fit into your mold, because i&#8217;m more interested in fitting into my own. It&#8217;s pretty simple. A guy as smart as you made sure to proclaim here for all to envy be ought to be able to grasp most of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Benedict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Benedict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob:  
March 6, 2010 at 7:42 am
&lt;i&gt;I’ve been a real estate broker for 20 years Mike.. &lt;/i&gt;

@Bob:  
March 9, 2010 at 8:37 am
&lt;i&gt;I dont sell real estaste for a living &lt;/i&gt;

Q: How many Bob Fontaines can there be on one board?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob:<br />
March 6, 2010 at 7:42 am<br />
<i>I’ve been a real estate broker for 20 years Mike.. </i></p>
<p>@Bob:<br />
March 9, 2010 at 8:37 am<br />
<i>I dont sell real estaste for a living </i></p>
<p>Q: How many Bob Fontaines can there be on one board?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fontaine</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55532</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know what that means exactly Mike, alot of people make alot of money in real estate.. I dont sell real estaste for a living either. I hope you spend your life doing exactly those things that make you happy. Really Mike, that is quite a telling reply on your behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know what that means exactly Mike, alot of people make alot of money in real estate.. I dont sell real estaste for a living either. I hope you spend your life doing exactly those things that make you happy. Really Mike, that is quite a telling reply on your behalf.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Benedict</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55530</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Benedict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob: I&#039;m someone who knows enough not to have to sell real estate for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob: I&#8217;m someone who knows enough not to have to sell real estate for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fontaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Fontaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I certainly am not casino gambling interest. You probably gamble more often than me. I just think you&#039;d be better of whining about the liquor industry, or smokes, or at least the lottery itself, before paiting this picture of comlete doom. &quot;Anyone who reads it can see that it’s not going to end well&quot;... Ahhh Ya Dan, that was kind of my point.. that some would make gambling out to be such a bad thing, while ignoring that much of our financial markets are effectively doing just that with our money, gambling. A story about public pensions taking risks with people&#039;s savings IS my point Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I certainly am not casino gambling interest. You probably gamble more often than me. I just think you&#8217;d be better of whining about the liquor industry, or smokes, or at least the lottery itself, before paiting this picture of comlete doom. &#8220;Anyone who reads it can see that it’s not going to end well&#8221;&#8230; Ahhh Ya Dan, that was kind of my point.. that some would make gambling out to be such a bad thing, while ignoring that much of our financial markets are effectively doing just that with our money, gambling. A story about public pensions taking risks with people&#8217;s savings IS my point Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/05/controlling-the-casino-gambling-narrative/comment-page-1/#comment-55528</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike: You see what happens when you question the so-called logic of the casino-gambling interests. Interesting that @Bob would cite that New York Times story about public pensions. Anyone who reads it can see that it&#039;s not going to end well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: You see what happens when you question the so-called logic of the casino-gambling interests. Interesting that @Bob would cite that New York Times story about public pensions. Anyone who reads it can see that it&#8217;s not going to end well.</p>
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