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	<title>Comments on: Hard times continue at CNHI</title>
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		<title>By: Kett Jonas</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/11/hard-times-continue-at-cnhi/comment-page-1/#comment-56323</link>
		<dc:creator>Kett Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNHI should have hard times.  They hire idiots for publishers and directors.

If they would clean up the newspapers of lazy employees, especially in the sales department and hire managers that know something about managing and not pill popping, cocaine snorting addicts, their newspapers might stand a better chance of surviving.

You take a screaming raging crazy woman conducting a sales meeting and then ask yourself are you motivated to go out and sell advertising....not to mention her throwing things at the employees.

Wake up CNHI!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNHI should have hard times.  They hire idiots for publishers and directors.</p>
<p>If they would clean up the newspapers of lazy employees, especially in the sales department and hire managers that know something about managing and not pill popping, cocaine snorting addicts, their newspapers might stand a better chance of surviving.</p>
<p>You take a screaming raging crazy woman conducting a sales meeting and then ask yourself are you motivated to go out and sell advertising&#8230;.not to mention her throwing things at the employees.</p>
<p>Wake up CNHI!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stucka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Stucka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy: I&#039;m not sure anyone is skating.

I worked at one of those CNHI papers for much of last year; I faced 10 days of furloughs. I learned of the first round as I woke up from a post-surgery nap.

I was able to find another journalism job, a miracle in itself, and almost waltzed into another round of furloughs. A gentleman who&#039;d been hired just before I was did get the furloughs based on his hire date. Salary freezes or cuts, slashed benefits and tons of layoffs have been the norms.

Take a look at &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://graphicdesignr.net/papercuts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://graphicdesignr.net/papercuts/&lt;/A&gt;. There&#039;s a way to look by years -- 2009 had about 15,000 newspaper folk lose their jobs. 2008 was about 16,000. Keep in mind this is not a definitive list.

Compare as you will. As Dan said, the pay has never been good. Some folks&#039;d compare to teachers, who face long hours and lots of stress, work in an intellectually challenging job, often have advanced degrees, generally can offer gripes about the lack of internal support and resources, and are often seen as voluntarily forgoing some pay in the interests of a kind of community service. You can dispute any of all of that if you&#039;d like.

But fact is there&#039;s a metric buttload of veteran reporters who still earn far less than the starting salary of teachers, and have far lower benefits as well.

Again, you can dispute the comparison. And I mean no slight to teachers or reporters or anyone, especially as a reporter son of teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy: I&#8217;m not sure anyone is skating.</p>
<p>I worked at one of those CNHI papers for much of last year; I faced 10 days of furloughs. I learned of the first round as I woke up from a post-surgery nap.</p>
<p>I was able to find another journalism job, a miracle in itself, and almost waltzed into another round of furloughs. A gentleman who&#8217;d been hired just before I was did get the furloughs based on his hire date. Salary freezes or cuts, slashed benefits and tons of layoffs have been the norms.</p>
<p>Take a look at <a HREF="http://graphicdesignr.net/papercuts/" rel="nofollow">http://graphicdesignr.net/papercuts/</a>. There&#8217;s a way to look by years &#8212; 2009 had about 15,000 newspaper folk lose their jobs. 2008 was about 16,000. Keep in mind this is not a definitive list.</p>
<p>Compare as you will. As Dan said, the pay has never been good. Some folks&#8217;d compare to teachers, who face long hours and lots of stress, work in an intellectually challenging job, often have advanced degrees, generally can offer gripes about the lack of internal support and resources, and are often seen as voluntarily forgoing some pay in the interests of a kind of community service. You can dispute any of all of that if you&#8217;d like.</p>
<p>But fact is there&#8217;s a metric buttload of veteran reporters who still earn far less than the starting salary of teachers, and have far lower benefits as well.</p>
<p>Again, you can dispute the comparison. And I mean no slight to teachers or reporters or anyone, especially as a reporter son of teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.dankennedy.net/2010/03/11/hard-times-continue-at-cnhi/comment-page-1/#comment-55631</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathy: I think it&#039;s unfair to say that newspaper employees have gotten off easy. Folks at places like GateHouse and CNHI were grossly underpaid to begin with. But it&#039;s fair to say that most people in the news business believe the economy has been uniquely awful to them, not quite understanding that it&#039;s bad all over. As we&#039;ve been told repeatedly, this is the worst economy since the 1930s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathy: I think it&#8217;s unfair to say that newspaper employees have gotten off easy. Folks at places like GateHouse and CNHI were grossly underpaid to begin with. But it&#8217;s fair to say that most people in the news business believe the economy has been uniquely awful to them, not quite understanding that it&#8217;s bad all over. As we&#8217;ve been told repeatedly, this is the worst economy since the 1930s.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Nolan Deschenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Nolan Deschenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband had to take 15 unpaid (furlough) days off last year. And I had to take two cuts in pay that amounted to almost 25% of my salary. We did that without complaint since it meant a) we got to keep our jobs, and b) coworkers weren&#039;t laid off.

I think that the newspaper biz, so far, has gotten off pretty easy. Obviously, things need to turn around for this industry, but they can&#039;t expect to skate while employees in other sectors are taking ones for the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband had to take 15 unpaid (furlough) days off last year. And I had to take two cuts in pay that amounted to almost 25% of my salary. We did that without complaint since it meant a) we got to keep our jobs, and b) coworkers weren&#8217;t laid off.</p>
<p>I think that the newspaper biz, so far, has gotten off pretty easy. Obviously, things need to turn around for this industry, but they can&#8217;t expect to skate while employees in other sectors are taking ones for the team.</p>
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		<title>By: L.K. Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.K. Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So? 

Isn&#039;t the alternative no paper at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So? </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the alternative no paper at all?</p>
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